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vedder
Posted on 2006.06.29 at 18:38

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Jackie
never2muchmusic at 2006-07-02 07:58 (UTC) (Link)
First of all, I think there is a huge difference between a baby and a fetus. A fetus is inside the mother's womb and hasn't been born. Webster defines a fetus as "an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually three months after conception to birth". So technically most abortions aren't even of fetuses, but of clusters of cells. I don't think that getting an abortion is killing because you're not killing a baby, and most times you're not even killing a fetus; you're killing a bunch of cells. I repeat myself: You can't kill something that has never lived. And if you're trying to say that you're against killing cells, then you really shouldn't have scratched that itch a few minutes ago, and you REALLY shouldn't masturbate.

Also, I never once said that anything is the fetus's fault. Actually this is part of the reason why I'm pro-choice. As I tried to explain earlier: thousands of children are unwanted, unsupported, unloved. I don't think that any child deserves this, and abortion is a means of preventing it. Secondly, you don't seem to understand that adoption isn't all it's cracked up to be. There are tons of children living on the streets, in homeless shelters, in orphanages, in foster homes... Children that don't have a home. Children that don't feel loved. And even children that do get adopted and have homes have difficult times in their lives that anyone who's not adopted can never understand. You say "Killing the baby or saving the baby?" When in all reality you're creating a child that will possibly have a life full of trauma, confusion, hunger, and even a life without truly feeling loved.

In addition, why does it always seem to be men that have a problem with abortions? Men don't understand what it's like to be female, what it's like to bleed and hurt every month, what it's like to be pregnant... To throw up every morning, to have something that's normally tiny stretch out to the size of a softball, to feel nothing but excrutiating pain.

And honestly, if you feel that abortion is okay if the mother's life is at risk, then you obviously haven't realized that more than 500,000 women die as a result of childbirth every year. Every pregnant woman's life is technically at risk. So, according to your logic, every pregnant woman should be allowed to get an abortion. You're pro-choice if you think that abortion should be allowed at any point in time, in any case.

Lastly, abstinence doesn't work.
herocatholic
herocatholic at 2006-07-02 14:05 (UTC) (Link)
don't think that getting an abortion is killing because you're not killing a baby, and most times you're not even killing a fetus; you're killing a bunch of cells. I repeat myself: You can't kill something that has never lived.

So it really depends on when you perform the abortion on when you are or are not killing a fetus? Killing a fetus is not killing a bunch of cells anymore since a fetus has a heart and a brain and they are both work simotaneously in order to keep the fetus alive.

then you really shouldn't have scratched that itch a few minutes ago, and you REALLY shouldn't masturbate.

I laughed at that part. (however, the cells on my skin are already dead so it's okay to make that itch...masturbation on the other hand [despite the cells already being dead]...)

In addition, why does it always seem to be men that have a problem with abortions? Men don't understand what it's like to be female, what it's like to bleed and hurt every month, what it's like to be pregnant... To throw up every morning, to have something that's normally tiny stretch out to the size of a softball, to feel nothing but excrutiating pain.

What about women who are pro-life (and yes, I do know women who are pro-life)?

You say "Killing the baby or saving the baby?" When in all reality you're creating a child that will possibly have a life full of trauma, confusion, hunger, and even a life without truly feeling loved.

You are right, since I am not adopted [least I don't think so], I wouldn't know these feelings but that doesn't mean that saving a child so that they could find a suitable home and feel loved isn't worth it.

Plus, you can't play the "what if" game on this. What if...the child goes through trauma? But what if..the child finds a home and finally feels accepted and loved? Isn't that worth putting the baby up for adoption and saving the baby's life if one is pregnant?

As I tried to explain earlier: thousands of children are unwanted, unsupported, unloved. I don't think that any child deserves this, and abortion is a means of preventing it

I don't think they deserve it either, but I don't think killing them off is the answer.

You're pro-choice if you think that abortion should be allowed at any point in time, in any case.

But it's not ANY case. You are generalizing the word "risk" and then applying it to what I said, which you know is not what I meant. Yes, a woman being pregnant is itself a risk, but the risk isn't cited until the actual birth of the baby or a little bit sometime before it. Is the mother's life REALLY at risk if they are just pregnant? Not so much unless there are complications with the delivery.

About 46 million women get abortions every year. How many of those are in the risk of the mother's life? I would say not a whole lot since it's a rare occurance.

Lastly, abstinence doesn't work.

Last time I checked, it's the only full-proof 100% way of not getting pregnant. The pill works 99% and condoms work 95-99%.
Jackie
never2muchmusic at 2006-07-02 20:02 (UTC) (Link)
I'm not going to try to explain myself again because you're obviously not open-minded enough to understand.
herocatholic
herocatholic at 2006-07-03 03:57 (UTC) (Link)
I understand what you are saying, I just don't agree with what you said.
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